Get out the baggies and a sharpie, lots of little pieces coming off!
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Alright!
Get out the baggies and a sharpie, lots of little pieces coming off!
Get out the baggies and a sharpie, lots of little pieces coming off!
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Haha! First kill, and it's a trophy!
Yeah, have fun with that bell housing. 
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Great pictures and family event! Congratulations.
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Great to see the kids involved, congrats on getting that engine clear

Haha yepRiverPatrol wrote:Yeah, have fun with that bell housing.
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The bell housing would not have been too hard had I removed the throw out bearing BEFORE unbolting the clutch... Doh! Live and learn. Anyway, I have the first engine happily sitting on a stand just waiting for more love to come it's way!
Disposable plastic kitchen containers are awesome for parts storage! On a side note: I started with the 1/2 ton Harbor Freight engine stand -- which they claim is "good for big block engines", but is a scary choice for a large inline six like this. I returned it and purchased their 1-ton model (I love Harbor Freight by the way!). It's good enough, but that dang P engine is just plain BIG!
Bad Choice (the 1/2 Ton model): http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-en ... 69520.html Really Bad Choice (the 3/8 Ton model): http://www.harborfreight.com/750-lb-eng ... 69887.html Decent Choice (1-Ton): http://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-fo ... -8970.html
Disposable plastic kitchen containers are awesome for parts storage! On a side note: I started with the 1/2 ton Harbor Freight engine stand -- which they claim is "good for big block engines", but is a scary choice for a large inline six like this. I returned it and purchased their 1-ton model (I love Harbor Freight by the way!). It's good enough, but that dang P engine is just plain BIG!
Bad Choice (the 1/2 Ton model): http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-en ... 69520.html Really Bad Choice (the 3/8 Ton model): http://www.harborfreight.com/750-lb-eng ... 69887.html Decent Choice (1-Ton): http://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-fo ... -8970.html
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I don't know, for some reason a P engine always looks more correct to me sitting on top of an old tire on the tailgate of an old pickup truck.
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Good choice on the 1 Ton model. What's next on the list?
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The Valdez came to visit our garage!
Jay and I spent some time stripping the engine from the '66. No broken studs or bolts and everything came off just as it should... easily! Jay was a big help. Again, he did most of the work.
Jay is victorious!

One thing I did was drain the oil from the engine. I placed my really cool oil change pan... you know, that container with the pan-ish side so you can drain the oil right into it. When I removed the plug, I quickly realized why I'd been smelling gas, and it wasn't from the carburetor. The engine was really, really full of oil that I suspect was nearly 50% gasoline. Do you know what happens when you mix oil and gas? You get really, really thin, runny oil that pours out at 130 miles per hour and almost instantly overwealms that really cool oil change plan and proceeds to cover everything in a 10-foot radius with oil! I went little-Dutch-Boy and stuffed my finger in the drain plug hole in an effort to slow the flow and let the pan catch up. Anyway, for a bit, my garage floor looked like Prince William Sound after a visit from the Valdez!
Okay, back to the engine: While crusty and rusty on the outside, the engine looks pretty good inside:
Look Ma! It's apart!

Looking into the cylinders -- No obvious scoring

Doesn't look too bad, does it.

Jay and I spent some time stripping the engine from the '66. No broken studs or bolts and everything came off just as it should... easily! Jay was a big help. Again, he did most of the work.
Jay is victorious!
One thing I did was drain the oil from the engine. I placed my really cool oil change pan... you know, that container with the pan-ish side so you can drain the oil right into it. When I removed the plug, I quickly realized why I'd been smelling gas, and it wasn't from the carburetor. The engine was really, really full of oil that I suspect was nearly 50% gasoline. Do you know what happens when you mix oil and gas? You get really, really thin, runny oil that pours out at 130 miles per hour and almost instantly overwealms that really cool oil change plan and proceeds to cover everything in a 10-foot radius with oil! I went little-Dutch-Boy and stuffed my finger in the drain plug hole in an effort to slow the flow and let the pan catch up. Anyway, for a bit, my garage floor looked like Prince William Sound after a visit from the Valdez!
Okay, back to the engine: While crusty and rusty on the outside, the engine looks pretty good inside:
Look Ma! It's apart!
Looking into the cylinders -- No obvious scoring
Doesn't look too bad, does it.
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cylinders look good from what I can see in the pic- is there even a lip at the top?
The old-timers rule is: if there is a lip at the top of the cylinder bores deep enough to catch your thumbnail, then you need them bored, but yours look pretty smooth-
you might be able to get away with a simple bottle hone and a set of rings and bearings.
Now, about that cylinder head....
numbers 2, 4 and 5 look normal.
Looks like there's been some coolant seepage into 1,3 and 6 and number 6 also looks like it has had some oil getting past the rings.
The old-timers rule is: if there is a lip at the top of the cylinder bores deep enough to catch your thumbnail, then you need them bored, but yours look pretty smooth-
you might be able to get away with a simple bottle hone and a set of rings and bearings.
Now, about that cylinder head....
numbers 2, 4 and 5 look normal.
Looks like there's been some coolant seepage into 1,3 and 6 and number 6 also looks like it has had some oil getting past the rings.
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Wow! You could tell all that from a snapshot! Imagine if I'd have sent high resolution shots!
I can feel a slight lip when you rub your finger on it, but you'd have a tough time catching a nail on it. My plan is to have a basic valve job done on the head by a shop. I think plan is for a good cleaning and replacing the rings & bearings.
I can feel a slight lip when you rub your finger on it, but you'd have a tough time catching a nail on it. My plan is to have a basic valve job done on the head by a shop. I think plan is for a good cleaning and replacing the rings & bearings.