my 1967 patina project build

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Re: my 1967 patina project build

Post by rdarnell »

I recently dug out a few parts from my hoard taken from my 1963 and 1965 parts truck. the 1965 actually has a 1967 engine in it. As you might recall my 1967 came with a partially disassembled engine and the head was missing.
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In the back was most of the parts taken off the engine.
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My extra parts collection has been taken from my parts trucks with some bolted on and some laying loose inside.
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1965 with 1967 engine
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I have cleaned up some parts to see what is useable and found some differences. The 1963 had the oil filter mount and distributor already removed but I found the blue one in the back. The one on the left I took off the 1967 parts engine and the one on the right is from my 1967. As you can see from the photos various pieces are missing on the 2 later versions. Mine has the inner tube missing but there is a pop weld present that tells me it should have had one. Also both are missing the top inside retainer and the spring. I am really thinking about making an adapter to allow the use of a spin on filter. and have read a couple forums on here.

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Most of the distributors are the water protect Hitachi D608-02 but one is a D613-01K it is also water proof and has the correct base and gear drive on it. I think this is the one that was possibly being used in my 1967. 3 have a blue brass label on them and the other 2 have a green sticker label.
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The green label with the red wire was out of the 1967 parts engine.

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the other green label one and the other distributors were all laying in my truck but the D613 was the only one looking complete, it can be seen in the back of the green truck on the left in the box in the pic of the back of my truck. The condenser is mounted on the inside of this model, the one from the parts engine has the condenser mounted on the outside. All the other caps and distributors were laying in the back of the truck also.
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The fuel pumps are from left to right: from the 1967 parts truck, from the 1963 parts truck, from my 1967 and the new one that came with the 1969 and 1967 when I originally bought them. Rob had bought it for the red one because the diaphragm was bad and gas was getting into the crankcase. the two on the left appear original and have the hand primer although the one from the parts engine is missing pieces the lower lever is present. the other two are Kyosan Denki brands like what is on my Land Cruiser. Guessing mine had been replaced sometime in the past.
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Re: my 1967 patina project build

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Also out of curiosity I have been weighing pieces as I pulled them apart and rebuilt them. Here is my list so far. i have not dug out the generato or alternator, starter, carb and breather, oil pan with skidplate, etc yet. sorry about it being sideways.
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Perhaps a little off topic, but I love your handwriting! ;-)
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I see now why they changed the oil filter base. the early style pumps sends potentially dirty oil through the engine while any filtered oil only goes back into the oil pan. The later style base has two larger holes that match up to two holes on the block. The lower hole comes from the oil pump and the upper hole enters the oil galley on the side of the block to oil the entire engine.
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The early mount only has one bigger hole that has a slot cut into it and that feeds some oil to the filter and some to the block galley. Depending on which has the least resistance determines which gets more oil. On the early mount there is a bypass hole on the inside of the filter base the returns some filtered oil. the only problem is it dumps the filtered oil back into the oil pan to be co-mingled with the unfiltered oil.
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The later model has a bypass built into the oil pump side that if the filter was clogged and not flowing the spring would give way and allow the check ball to let the unfiltered out into the filtered side. That is what is under the large slotted screw head on the later model.

I have removed the shield in the base of my later model to allow me to start my conversion process. I have run some colored wires through the ports to show the flow. The red wire is coming from oil pump up through the center. This is wrong for modern spin on oil filters and why Esteban had to make an adapter to reverse the flow. Oil filters are designed to have the clean oil coming out the threaded part. He has a pretty good write up and pictures when I searched "oil filter adapter" The white wire is the by pass that comes from the clean side of the filter and drains into the oil pan. The main hole in the early base is not in line with the 2 holes on my block but the big slot around the hole does span both ports on the block. On the later version I have a small screwdriver showing the path. By have two ports and entry into the filter base and an exit from the filter base all you get it filtered oil going through the engine (unless filter is clogged and the check valve allows un-filtered oil to bypass).

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Decided to apply some Boiled Linseed Oil to the hood and fenders on Saturday.
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you can see the difference from the top and the rear quarter panel.
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Sunday I decided to finish cleaning up the engine bay and oiled it down too.
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Past couple of days I have been hitting the phones trying to figure out where all the Nissan and Komatsu forklifts with P40 engines go to die. Apparently I am too late and most of the lift truck salvage yards have parted ways with anything that old. A couple parts houses for forklifts told me to try Atlanta Liftruck Salvage in GA and M&M Lift Truck Salvage in AZ. First up was Atlanta and I struck out, I spoke with Manny at M&M and he said he did not think he had anything left from any P40's but he would look. I googled lift truck salvage and started working my way around the country ultimately coming up empty. Today I got a call back from Manny, the only one who said he might have something but he was not too optimistic. He was able to find one last distributor core and base in his cores. I now have the correct base for the C7000 distributor. I should get it next week and then I can clean it up some.
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Re: my 1967 patina project build

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Wow!
Congratulations on your effort!
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Just got this little piece of unobtanium in the mail! Not sure if it is the right one for a 1967... but at least I have one!
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Re: my 1967 patina project build

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That looks like the right manual for '66 or '67. Nice diligence on chasing down the distributor base.
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Just posted scanned copies on the Owner's Manual in the Manual area. It took some learning, my first attempt was just scanning them in but they were scanning as letter size documents which cut them off. I had to actually go the my scan option tab on the computer and change the paper size to A4 and scan each set of facing pages. And then after that I had to find a program that would allow me to merge all the pages to one pdf. Went so smooth I decided to do a second one scanning single pages at A5 size (which is half size of A4 and the actual size of the manual) since I got two free pdf merges per day. I went to upload and found the next problem... too large. They were both about 22MB and max upload is 10. So back to the interweb searching for more free software to allow me to resize the pdf... and here we are!
Patrol Owner's manual A5 paper sm.pdf
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