350 in a 67 patrol??

npca-67patrol2 · Post by **npca-67patrol2** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:52 am

I have a 67 patrol and i was wondering if a 350 swap would or is hard to do? I would like to use the orginal axels but swap out the motor,tranny and transfrecase. has anyone done it? if so please pespond with advice. thanks

npca-rockpatrol · Post by **npca-rockpatrol** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:31 pm

it is actually better to use ford stuff due to the widths on the heads...the ford is narrower and fits in nicely compared to the chevy 350....i have a fi 351 in my 65 and it RUNS

npca-4x4xjonx4x4 · Post by **npca-4x4xjonx4x4** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:12 pm

Ive never done it, but I can give you this hint...In order to keep the stock axles, you will need a t-case that has a right-side front and rear output and a motor to bolt up to the 350...Quadratrac Wagoneers, Cherokees, and J-Trucks had a TH400 with an AMC belhousing adapter on the transmission. Some 1-Ton GM pickups had a 350/TH400 combo and would have the desired bellhousing, converter, and shaft. The Quadratrac T-case had offset front and rear outputs and would allow you to run your stock axles.Thats my $.20. (inflation, ya know....) Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine.

npca-fud · Post by **npca-fud** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:12 pm

Sorry if I sound harsh here but what is the friggin point?? A 350 is easier to get parts for yes this is true but otherwise I see no reason to fit one. An auto tranny is also worthless on a P-troll unless you spend all your time in traffic jams. Off road an auto and V8 will not help you wheel better. All it is going to do is make you spin your tires more thus resulting in less traction. I have one of the best off road trucks made in the world, a Pinzgauer. It has a 4 cylinder 90hp motor and the truck is over 6000lbs unloaded and can haul 1.5ton in the bed. Why do you think the engine is so small and under 100hp?? Because power is not the way to improve a truck off road....traction is what it is all about. Also why go through the trouble to fit a v8 and auto or any other tranny and v8 with the stock diffs?? The C216 is an open diff, you will not get more traction with more power and an auto....you will simply have made it more prone to spin the tires and loose traction. The result is trashing trails and making the ruts worse plus you will get stuck much more often. The only thing I can see worth the time to convert is the tranny. Reason being to increase top end speed at a lower rpm and get a lower 4wd low plus adding syncros to rev & 1st. The diffs could also be better with a locker but now you have changed the tranny, diffs and probily engine out, what is left?? You do not own a P-troll any more you own a P-troll body and frame. So why buy the P-troll in the first place?? Why not buy an FJ40 TLC and then all the conversion crap is everywhere you want to get it. To improve the old P-troll off road, I assume this is the reason for the v8, you are much better off swaping out the diffs. A portal diff such as the Volvo C303 will do ten times more to the truck than any motor swap. More clearance, 100x more traction at the ground and a locker in front and rear. A set of these diff will also run about the same price as the v8 conversion. Maybe I missed something here....feel free to enlighten me on how a v8 and an auto will improve any 40 year old P-troll. Besides the use of the truck as a freeway commuter it seems 100% pointless to me.

npca-44s baby · Post by **npca-44s baby** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:26 am

Actually I feel a V8 swap was very useful, not only for more power, but more reliable, cheaper parts, and easer to find parts, at any junkyard or parts store. I also noticed better gas mileage, as you don't need so much throttle to move the truck, I noticed the same thing when I swapped a 350 into my Land Cruiser. I own two Patrols, '66 completely stock, and a '65 which I bought as just a frame and body so I had no choice but to use something common. I used a 400 small block Chev, Toyota LC tranny, T- case, and axles. I actually needed the extra power as I am running 44" Boggers. No lockers yet, but I agree traction is what makes all the difference. My stock Patrol has low miles, and purrs like a kitten, due to electronic ignition from a Nissan 280 ZX. Other than that the only thing I would like to change is to figure out either a more reliable carb. or fuel injection. If I were to build up my stock Patrol I would definitely keep the strong torque, and decent HP, you get in the stock 4L engine, make the few upgrades in the ignition, and carb, and your done to run whatever size tires you want. These vehicles are in my opinion the best of their type in the world and if I were around and driving in the 60's when they where imported to the States, and Canada, I could guarantee I would have bought it over he Jeep, LC, Scout, Bronco, Land Rover or whatever else was available at that time, and I am sure I would still own it today. Don't be scared to do whatever you want to your Patrol but as a Patroller you will be much happier to keep it as stock as you possibly can. Keep it real, and remember the truck with the biggest tires, always goes first.

npca-hoss · Post by **npca-hoss** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:22 am

and remember if you are hunting, the patrol with the skinniest tires, original height, and chained up leaves the others at camp and comes home with the game. i found that out the last pig hunt. when you get into the snow and mud and cambered icy roads real high and real wide don't get it.

npca-fud · Post by **npca-fud** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:02 pm

I agree that a 350 could be helpful in turning 44" tires. I also agree with nearly everything you say....I still feel that an auto tranny is worthless though. Good reply and good write up though and I enjoyed reading it, thanks as most people do not take the time to type a detailed response. I also agree with Hoss that a stock P-troll can go where most 4x4 can not go....this is one of the reasons I enjoy the old P-trolls so much.

npca-honda guy · Post by **npca-honda guy** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:47 pm

I am curious about the Z distributor in the Patrol. It seems that the advance curve would be less than ideal as the Z could rev a bit higher than the Patrol. How well does it perform under various conditions? I have to admit electronic ignition is very appealing, especially with the waterproof distributor (witch I have) parts becoming harder and harder to find.

npca-eyepez · Post by **npca-eyepez** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:09 pm

; I wouldn't know how the Z distributor would work in ; the P40. I have the same L28 engine as the Z car.; ; ; ----- Original Message ----- ; From: ; Honda guy ; ; To: Nissan Patrol Club ; Albuquerque ; Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:47 ; PM; Subject: Re: 350 in a 67 patrol??; ; ; ; ; New Message on Nissan Patrol ; Club Albuquerque; ; ; 350 in a ; 67 patrol??; ; ; ; Reply; ; ; ; ; ; Reply to Sender Recommend ; Message 8 in ; Discussion ; ; ; ; ; ; From: Honda guy ; ; ; I am curious about the Z distributor in the Patrol. It ; seems that the advance curve would be less than ideal as the Z ; could rev a bit higher than the Patrol. How well does it perform ; under various conditions? I have to admit electronic ignition is ; very appealing, especially with the waterproof distributor ; (witch I have) parts becoming harder and harder to ; find.View other groups in this ; category.

npca-4x4xjonx4x4 · Post by **npca-4x4xjonx4x4** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:34 pm

I will be doing the ZX dizzy conversion on my Patrol tomarrow if I cant find a compatible dizzy cap and rotor at the parts store. Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work — and yourself.