Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
*update*
Well...
After cleaning and adjusting the brakes seemed to be working ok. They still wanted to lock up a bit in reverse on the rear passenger side, but forward was perfectly fine.
Then it all went horribly wrong.
Me and my dad test drove around the block to see if the brakes were staying open and working at least while going forward, so that tomorrow we could take it to a shop.
Half way through the drive the brakes completely failed.
I managed to turn the patrol uphill and then coasted into a valley between two roads. We then drove it home with my parents car acting as brakes. Judging by the large amount of fluid we dropped on the road coming from the rear passenger brake, I can only assume the cylinder broke and we lost all pressure.
So after that scary ordeal I will be calling around to see if someone can do a complete overhaul of the brake system. It has traumatized me enough to just want it all professionally done.
Of course I worry about part availability, so if anyone has suggestions beyond ebay please let me know so I can either get them ordered for the shop or they can order.
Thanks and be safe! Haha
Well...
After cleaning and adjusting the brakes seemed to be working ok. They still wanted to lock up a bit in reverse on the rear passenger side, but forward was perfectly fine.
Then it all went horribly wrong.
Me and my dad test drove around the block to see if the brakes were staying open and working at least while going forward, so that tomorrow we could take it to a shop.
Half way through the drive the brakes completely failed.
I managed to turn the patrol uphill and then coasted into a valley between two roads. We then drove it home with my parents car acting as brakes. Judging by the large amount of fluid we dropped on the road coming from the rear passenger brake, I can only assume the cylinder broke and we lost all pressure.
So after that scary ordeal I will be calling around to see if someone can do a complete overhaul of the brake system. It has traumatized me enough to just want it all professionally done.
Of course I worry about part availability, so if anyone has suggestions beyond ebay please let me know so I can either get them ordered for the shop or they can order.
Thanks and be safe! Haha
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Ebay is pretty much the only source for brake rebuild stuff I'm pretty sure.
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Question for you all,
Does 4wd Products just take a while to respond? I messaged through ebay and emailed them 3 days ago and have not heard anything. I just want to make sure I get the correct fit on these parts.
Alternatively, does anyone here know if this fits the US Patrols?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Sho ... 1679339711
Same with the front:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Shoe-Whe ... 3599729587
Does 4wd Products just take a while to respond? I messaged through ebay and emailed them 3 days ago and have not heard anything. I just want to make sure I get the correct fit on these parts.
Alternatively, does anyone here know if this fits the US Patrols?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Sho ... 1679339711
Same with the front:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Shoe-Whe ... 3599729587
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Never had anyone complain about them not responding, maybe it's an eBay thing.
Those are definitely the right parts for the US Patrol.
Those are definitely the right parts for the US Patrol.
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Please be aware that you'll need to change the fittings in your brake lines to metric, since the cylinders will be with metric threads (Nissan switched to metric in the Patrol around 1978)Brand138 wrote:Question for you all,
Does 4wd Products just take a while to respond? I messaged through ebay and emailed them 3 days ago and have not heard anything. I just want to make sure I get the correct fit on these parts.
Alternatively, does anyone here know if this fits the US Patrols?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Sho ... 1679339711
Same with the front:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Shoe-Whe ... 3599729587
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Not necessarily. Many members have used these cylinders and not had to change the fittings. It says they are for '67 - 77, so that was before the metric change.Esteban wrote:Please be aware that you'll need to change the fittings in your brake lines to metric, since the cylinders will be with metric threads (Nissan switched to metric in the Patrol around 1978)Brand138 wrote:Question for you all,
Does 4wd Products just take a while to respond? I messaged through ebay and emailed them 3 days ago and have not heard anything. I just want to make sure I get the correct fit on these parts.
Alternatively, does anyone here know if this fits the US Patrols?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Sho ... 1679339711
Same with the front:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brake-Shoe-Whe ... 3599729587
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
You guys are so awsome, thank you for all the help so far. Without this forum I don't think restoring these things would be possible for many.
I'm about to order all the brake parts as well as a few other parts just to have spares, I hate to ask, but did they combine shipping for you guys or was each shipping fee on each item added together. Seems like it should be a bit lower since your combining shipping...
I'm about to order all the brake parts as well as a few other parts just to have spares, I hate to ask, but did they combine shipping for you guys or was each shipping fee on each item added together. Seems like it should be a bit lower since your combining shipping...
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They'll combine shipping, you just have to request it. That's a common eBay function.
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Re: Puzzle Time - 69 Locking Up When Braking in Reverse?
Brand138 wrote: Half way through the drive the brakes completely failed.
{sigh}.... yeah. Consequences of a 60+ year old single hydraulic circuit brake system design.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY don't like it.
You might find this topic interesting:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3078
and here's a few more posts about brakes from my most recent Patrol build:
viewtopic.php?p=44472#p44472
L-R:
White 65 Hardtop L60-3-00617 (undergoing restoration)
Red 65 hardtop 4L60-002565 (scrapped for parts)
66 Hardtop "El-Bondo Patrol", L60-00511 (Restored, then sold June2020)
Blue 67 Hardtop (sold March1997)
Green 62 Softtop L60-2-00504 (undergoing restoration)