Patrol Replacement Springs - What's Available in 2024?

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Postby r1lark » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:34 pm

I've been thru all the threads regarding replacement springs for our Patrols, and I'm more confused and have more questions now than before. :shock:

My Patrol needs at least new front springs. Although it is low mileage, a lot of those miles were with a hydraulic Western snowplow and associated equipment perched on the front. The distance between the top of the front axle and the rebound bumper is less than one-half of what the specs in the repair manual calls for. I want a stock replacement spring, no additional lift over original.

Looking thru these various threads, I see that various forum members have used springs from Alcan Spring, Donovan Spring, and Deaver Spring, with the most purchasing from Alcan. But it looks also like folks have had the most problems with Alcan springs not fitting, very very stiff ride, etc.

The following is by far the longest thread, with the most information: https://60patrol.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1768&hilit=front+springs........thirteen pages with the latest post right at 6 years ago.

I am soliciting input regarding sources for stock-type springs that have been used on our USA-spec Patrols -- source of the springs, part numbers if you have them, and how they fit and rode. Please help! :)
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Postby RiverPatrol » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:49 am

Have you considered having your existing springs re-arched? I think L60Boerne has the most experience with refurbishing springs.
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Postby r1lark » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:53 am

RiverPatrol wrote:Have you considered having your existing springs re-arched? I think L60Boerne has the most experience with refurbishing springs.


Thanks River for the input. I've seen a number of comments (not only here but on the Studebaker forums that I frequent) that re-arching doesn't last.

That said, re-arching would definitely be an option depending on the availability (and cost) of new stock configuration replacement springs. (I'm really not interested in any "lift" on this Patrol.)

Hopefully David will see this and provide some input on how re-arched springs worked on his Patrols.
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Postby RiverPatrol » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 am

There is a question as to the longevity of re-arching. I mentioned this to the owner of a spring shop. He said it won't last when they do it pneumatically. He uses heat, hammer and anvil which he says is the trick to making them last. I don't know from experience though. He did re-arch the springs on David's Pinto Patrol that way, so David will have to chime in with a review.
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Postby r1lark » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:38 am

Anyone familiar with Old Man Emu springs? Apparently they have at least three different front springs for 1960 thru 1980 Patrols:

Part number CS011FB: https://www.suspensionconnection.com/cs011fb-patrol.html
Stack Height: 49 mm
Number of Leaves: 8
Eye Diameter: 32.5 mm (F) / 32.5 mm (R)
Weight: 22.3 kg
Primary Free Camber: 200 mm
Spring Rate: 343 lbf/in
Color: Black
Material: Steel

Part number CS011FA: https://www.suspensionconnection.com/cs011fa-patrol.html
Stack Height: 49 mm
Number of Leaves: 8
Eye Diameter: 32.5 mm (F) / 32.5 mm (R)
Weight: 22.3 kg
Primary Free Camber: 215 mm
Spring Rate: 343 lbf/in
Color: Black
Material: Steel

Part number CS010FB: https://www.suspensionconnection.com/cs010fb-patrol.html
Amount of lift: 40mm
Number of leaves: 7
Rear eye diameter: 32.5mm
Spring rate: 283 Lbs/inch
Position: Front
Front eye diameter: 32.5mm
Primary free camber: 200mm

Whether these are for AUS spec or USA spec Patrols, it doesn't say. Also, since ARB/Old Man Emu appears to be a big offroad parts supplier, these are probably lift springs. The data listed came from some different websites, so I'm taking that with a grain of salt. Note that the p/n CS010FB data said the amount of lift was 40mm, which is 1-1/2".

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Postby r1lark » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:05 pm

I'm going to bump this thread back up, hoping for additional feedback on what replacement springs folks have used on their Patrols, plus any info on the Old Man Emu springs. Probably should not have started this thread on Super Bowl weekend! :D
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Postby r1lark » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:56 pm

Ok, going to bump this up one more time, to see if we can shake any feedback out of the trees. Last time, I promise! :D
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Postby Dixonsix » Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:33 pm

I may try this outfit when I get to this point. Several guys I know swear by them on their crawler builds. http://pohlsprings.com/products/

I am not quite there yet. Have not started the discussion.
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Postby r1lark » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:52 am

Dixonsix wrote:I may try this outfit when I get to this point. Several guys I know swear by them on their crawler builds. http://pohlsprings.com/products/

I am not quite there yet. Have not started the discussion.


Thanks, I'll check them out. :)
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