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Postby jeffs69Patrol » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:18 am

mattmctree@gmail.com wrote:Are you still able to get the bearings? I'm guessing I should do all the bearing and seals and gaskets while I'm at it. Does anyone have part numbers for them nd where to get them


Yes, I just recently rebuilt mine. There are a few good posts here that go over the process and the part numbers, link to one of those posts below. A number of the bearings could even be sourced at the Local Napa or Kragen Auto Parts stores by referencing the part number cross reference page.

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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:30 pm

i cant figure out why all my pics are posting sideways? how do i correct this
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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:00 pm

i tried to get the hard top off the truck in order to remove the tub and after removing the screws along the windshield and all the bolts along the roof cant get the thing off . what am i missing? if anyone knows someone in canada who wants to buy a patrol let me know as i have another baby on the way and may have to sell
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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:00 pm

If anyone has any tips on getting the hard top off odd appreciate it. I want to take the roof and the sides off separately for ease of restoring. I have come up against a lot of broken bolts and also captured nuts that just break off and spin. How does everyone go about repairing them. Is it easy enough to pop the spot welds and put in a new nut or do most just use a regular but and bolt?
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Postby zed » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:10 pm

One of my favorite solutions (no welding required):
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/z ... t-Nut.html

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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:01 pm

So you just grind out the captured nuts and insert those in their place?
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Postby zed » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Correct.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/v ... ction=view

Note, this solution will lose some of the adjustability that a floating cage nut provides. You may have enlarge the hole of the part you attaching to ensure that the fastener aligns with the rivet nut.

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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:42 pm

Been super busy with work and getting ready for a new baby but got out and managed to get some stuff done , hard top roof and sides are off
Tub is off, one door is off, ( other is seized) I pulled the gas tank and skid plate which had 2 shopping bags worth of dirt in it! I've taken some pics of some metal that I think has been welded on the frame after the fact and am wondering if anyone can concur so I can go ahead and cut it off
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Postby RiverPatrol » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:13 am

Nice that you're spending some quality time with your Patrol. Removing the gas tank skid plate is a sure way to instantly lose a few pounds removing all the dirt that collects there.

The metal pieces are definitely not original, but actually very cleaver. They're acting as inverted mud flaps, keeping dirt and debris flung up from the road from collecting around the rear of the tub. This has forever been a source of rust, rot and ruined tail lights.
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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:44 pm

so you think I should keep the inverted mud flaps? I mean if they will help protect from rust why not? the other day I was at a customers business and they do galvanizing. has anyone galvanized a patrol frame before? my only concern would be if it required repair in future as far as I know galvanized cant be welded?
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Postby L60Boerne » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:32 am

Matt,
There are two types of galvanization; hot dip and flame sprayed. Both have significant drawbacks.

Flame sprayed, likely your first option, leave very little zinc on the edges which actually generates rust spots.

Hot dip is where you actually dip the frame in a vat of hot molten zinc. This is by far the best approach from a coating perspective...though at the risk of warping your frame.

Either approach makes painting very difficult. It can be done but it takes a very good primer and paint, then it is still easily chipped.

I'd think the new thick rust preventing bed liner type paints would much better than either form of galvanization.

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Postby SBP78g60 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:40 am

hey mate progress looks good, i went through this thought process about galving my frame about a month agoi rang a few places and nobody, not even the galvanisers recomended it..i think there was a few reasons but mainly, every thread an bolt hole will be full and will need to be re cut, exposing it again and then kinda making a weak spot in your protective barrier, so kinda defeating the purpous is what i was told, but i dnt see why its fine for trailers and other things then, plus i know of a mining company whos building a whole fleet of landcruisers with fully galved chassis..so i still dnt see why not. so i didnt do it, but not saying i wouldnt either...

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Postby RiverPatrol » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:03 am

mattmctree@gmail.com wrote:so you think I should keep the inverted mud flaps? I mean if they will help protect from rust why not?


Really depends on how much and how often you plan on using it when its finished. Personally I wouldn't think it would be necessary for the type of use a restoration is going to get. I'm always aware, and whenever I drove in conditions that would throw mud I knew I needed to do a good job of hosing it down.
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Postby mattmctree@gmail.com » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:29 am

It's been quite a while. I've been very busy and have a 8 week old daughter and my son is now 3 which keeps me busy. I recently got the floors pan section off after some coercing . I will post some pics later. I'm now looking at the frame and have found a few sections with rot and am hoping that the project isn't a lost cause. Also I found some shards of gear in the transmission . Am I still able to get gears for the truck.
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Postby mad4hws » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:38 am

I have a spare transmission that I can pull gears from if you need. I had it rebuilt, but once it was installed, i couldn't keep it in gear. It kept popping out. Anyway, replaced it with another one that I salvaged so it's just sitting there waiting for me to decide what to do with it.
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